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Post by redsox907 » 19 Jan 2026, 18:16

Agent wrote:
19 Jan 2026, 00:51
Nothing like that first win :blessed:
never forget your first :melo:
djp73 wrote:
19 Jan 2026, 07:38
maybe you should have all six of those safeties on the field at the same time :jalenrose:
five of the six saw the field in a variety of ways, sir. More in the next preview

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that was the touchdown catch in the 4th that nearly lost us the game. PERFECT coverage, swatted the ball, but Broussard got his other hand on it on the rebound with a foot in for the tuddy :smh:
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2026 Week Two Preview - #17 Texas Tech (1-0) @ Oregon State (1-0)
Ricky McKinley // Dam DailyPublished: September 10th, 2026

The Beavs may have stormed into TDECU Stadium and escaped with an exhilarating 41-39 upset to kickoff the second edition of the Smith Era, but the danger is ratcheted up a notch this week when the Beavers open Reser Stadium against the 17th ranked Texas Tech. The Red Raiders bring their high-octane offense into Corvallis looking to turn Reser Stadium into a shooting gallery—especially after watching Oregon State hang 41 on the Cougars.

Here's a quick look at how the numbers stack up against the Red Raiders before we dive into the latest edition of "Leon's Lowdown."

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Oregon State Beavers (1-0)             | Description                   | #17 Texas Tech Red Raiders (1-0)
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77 Overall // 76 Offense // 79 Defense | Team Rating                   | 76 Overall // 74 Offense // 81 Defense
Jonathan Smith (44-50)                 | Head Coach                    | Joey McGuire (36-18)
Pro Style                              | Offensive Scheme              | Veer and Shoot
3-3-5                                  | Defensive Scheme              | 4-2-5

Oregon State Beavers                                                Texas Tech Red Raiders
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LT Jacob Strand (77) Partial MCL Tear (7 Weeks)   | Injuries      | N/A
LT Melvin Siani (82) Forearm Fracture (5 Weeks)   | Injuries      | N/A

Oregon State Beavers            | Pos | Texas Tech Red Raiders
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SO(RS) Kallen Gutridge (72)     | QB  | SR(RS) Brendan Sorsby (91)
JR Salahadin Allah (83)         | HB  | SO(RS) Quinten Joyner (89)
JR(RS) David Wells Jr (80)      | WR  | SR(RS) Coy Eakin (89)
JR(RS) Zachary Card (76)        | WR  | JR Micah Hudson (86)
SR(RS) CB Noble Thomas Jr (80)  | DEF | SR CB Brice Pollock (89)
JR(RS) DE Kelze Howard (80)     | DEF | SR(RS) CB Maurion Horn (88)
SR(RS) MLB Jalen Woods (79)     | DEF | SR(RS) DT AJ Holmes Jr (84)
SR SS Kyle Chen (78)            | DEF | SR SS Chapman Lewis (86)


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With the numbers out of the way, without further ado, the second edition of Leon's Lowdown where we're going to talk about the up and down defensive performance in Houston, the pass rush, and what adjustments Coach Mando expects for their upcoming showdown:

RM: "First and foremost, congratulations on notching your first win with the Beavs, Coach! I think I can speak for the entire fanbase when I say, I hope this is the first of many."

AL: "Thanks, Ricky. We're going to take it game by game, but so long as we execute like I know this team can? We should be in at least a few more games down the stretch."

RM: "Going on record and guaranteeing a better record than last season, Coach?"

AL: glances at moderator "Can I curse on here?...Okay, good.

"We fucking better get more than two wins this year, or there's going to be hell to pay."

RM: laughs "You heard it here first, folks! Coach Mando guarantees at least three wins. Take it to Vegas and bet the farm!"

Ricky waves off Coach Leon's attempted protest, before launching right into the questioning

RM: "Okay, I gotta play the role of reporter here for a minute, Coach. Oregon State got the win in Houston, but surrendered 39 points defensively and allowed Conner Weigman to carve them up with an 80% completion percentage. Those type of numbers don't inspire confidence in the defense in your first year as coordinator. Thoughts?"

AL: "We focus on the process and work on getting better each day. We didn't have the best performance on paper, but lest we forget that in a two point win, the defense recorded a safety and stopped a pair of two point conversions. That's two points we added and four points we kept off the board. You can't win every game with dominance, sometimes it's understanding that one or two plays can change the course of the game. We stayed locked in, never hung our heads, and made enough plays to keep the score close enough for Kallen to lead the final drive.

"That's what championship teams do, the little things that affect the final score. That being said, we definitely need to execute at a higher level, we can't expect to allow 39 points and win regularly."

RM: "Well dang, Coach. After that speech I'm ready to strap on a helmet. What kind of adjustments are you looking for this week to keep Sorsby from repeating the success of Weigman?"

AL: "It starts up front, period. This scheme is built around pressuring the quarterback and forcing miscues. Outside of a 36-and 25-yard run, we limited the Cougars on the ground and maintained gap integrity throughout. But we need to get better at shedding that initial block to make the QB move his feet. You can look at the secondary and say they need to hold up longer, but with us running man-coverage almost exclusively it puts the onus on the front seven. Towards the end of the game we were forced to use our extra safeties in coverage to try and keep the plays in front of us, ideally they'd be mixed between rotating coverage and blitzing. But when you aren't getting home, you've got to adjust. If we can start getting consistent pressure, without blitzing every down, the defensive scheme will really open up."

RM: "Last question before we let you off the hook, Coach. We saw five of those safeties on the field at the same time at different spots against Houston. Some pundits pointed out the defenses lack of size as a possible cause to the pass rush struggles. Thoughts?"

AL: "If any of those so-called pundits want to put their name on that take, they know where to find me. I would point out that Aiden Sullivan and Michael Montgomery each had about 15 snaps in pass-rushing situations as well, including Michael getting the run stuff on the final two point attempt. We're one game into this ride, let's see how it plays out before we throw the recipe out the window. Now if we start struggling against teams we are supposed to beat? Then we might need to sound an alarm. But if you told anyone that wasn't a Beavs fan that we'd go into TDECU and leave with a win, they'd laugh at you."


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You heard the man, let him cook!

For those skeptical of the Beavers' new-look defense and coordinator Armando Leon, we implore patience. Houston and Texas Tech both have elite quarterbacks—this isn't the same level of competition we'll see when Pac-12 play kicks off. And here's what's refreshing: Leon knows this. He's not using it as an excuse. He relishes the challenge and holds his team to the same standard regardless of opponent.

THAT is the guy we need leading change in Corvallis.

That being said....Texas Tech 35, Oregon State 13 is my prediction. The talent gap is real. Sorsby has more weapons than Weigman did, and our secondary is still learning the scheme. While I BELIEVE in Coach Mando, this is the kind of game where the chess pieces matter more than the chess player.

Prove me wrong, Beavs.
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Post by Caesar » 19 Jan 2026, 18:32

Defense looking a little shaky in that first game, Coach Mando. Texas Tech might light your ass up
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Post by redsox907 » 20 Jan 2026, 00:32

Caesar wrote:
19 Jan 2026, 18:32
Defense looking a little shaky in that first game, Coach Mando. Texas Tech might light your ass up
I mean, lest we forget this team went 2-10 last year. Getting lit up by Texas Tech and Houston is expected. Now, if we're getting lit up by Utah State, then Coach Mando may be on his way back to Havre :dunkface:
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Joyner Runs Hog Wild On Beavers In Lopsided Tech Victory
Ricky McKinley // Dam DailyPublished: September 12th, 2026

After a shocking 41-39 victory in Houston to kickoff the 2026 season, many in Corvallis were optimistically hopeful the Beavs could keep the momentum rolling when the Texas Tech Red Raiders rode into town. Reser Stadium was packed for the home opener, fans quietly expecting the Beavers to rattle off a second upset over a Big 12 opponent.

Hate to say I told you so...but I told ya so. And boy, it got ugly quick.

However, instead of Brendan Sorsby unloading his six-shooter on the Beavers' secondary like we expected, it was sophomore running back Quinten Joyner who gashed the Oregon State defense for 139 yards in the first half alone as Tech took a 31-10 lead into the halftime break.

The killer? Trailing 24-10, the Oregon State defense came up with a clutch red zone interception by Exodus Ayers, keeping the Raiders out of the end zone and giving Kallen Gutridge a chance to cut into the lead before halftime.

Instead, Gutridge threw a pick-six to Macho Stevenson on his very first pass after the turnover.

Oregon State never recovered in the eventual 47-13 shellacking.

The defense did generate pressure with two sacks, 15 tackles for loss, and Ayers' interception. But being on the field for 42 of 60 minutes left them gasping for air by game's end.

Here is a snippet of the post-game press conference with Beavers' DC Armando Leon.


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Question One: "Coach Leon, Olivia LeRusso with Oregonlive. After the win in Houston, there was real buzz in Corvallis about this team. What was the message to the locker room after a loss like this to keep them focused on the rest of the season?"

Armando Leon: "Great question, Olivia. It starts with being realistic. As much as I believe in this team and the work we do, the fact is there's a reason Texas Tech was heavy favorites. They've got the higher rated team, with higher recruited players, and a roster they paid big money for. We wanted to put a better showing than what we did on the field, but I can promise you we're going to work our asses off to make sure this type of performance doesn't become the norm. We have a standard we expect to play at, win or lose, and this certainly wasn't it."

Question Two: "Danny Marks with CW Sports. Coach, Quinten Joyner gashed you for 139 yards in the first half alone. What adjustments did you make at halftime, and in hindsight, should you have adjusted sooner?"

Armando Leon: "We were prepared to defend an aerial assault from a team that has a reputation to throw the ball a lot. So the early commitment to the run game did catch us off-guard, not going to lie or try to save face. But we were also on the field for 24 of the 30 minutes of the 1st half alone. Quinten ran hard and didn't shy away from contact, it would be wrong to discredit his strong performance, but we were gassed. We started to turn things around right before the half, when Exodus skied for the interception, but even so going into the half down 31-10 it was going to be an uphill climb even if we kept them off the scoreboard for the remainder of the contest. Honestly, we didn't make many adjustments in the second half, I just think we finally had a chance to catch our breath and get our bearings again after being on the field for so long in the first 30 minutes of the game.

Question Three: "Last one, Coach. Hank Baron from The Daily Toreador. You mentioned the massive differential in the time of possession, which ended with Texas Tech's offense controlling the ball for 42 of the 60 minutes in the contest. Was there ever a point where you had a conversation with Coach Smith, or offensive coordinator Mitch Dahlen, about trying to run some clock to keep your guys off the field a bit longer?"

Armando Leon: "I stay in my lane, Hank. When we went into the half, Coach Smith and Mitch told me they were going to keep airing it out, trying to get some momentum. I told 'em the defense would be out there until we ran out of breath. We rotated guys out a lot more frequently in the second half, try and keep them fresh, but when the offense is struggling sometimes you're stuck between a rock and a hard place. But ultimately, I coach the defense. My job is to make sure this unit gets stops when we need them, not look for excuses."


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The loss stings, there's no way around it. After Houston, it felt like maybe we had something. But getting blown out at home is a brutal reality check. The offense fell completely flat after a superb effort in Houston, generating only 198 total yards and 11 first downs, essentially hanging the defense out to dry with the multitude of three-and-outs.

It's a harsh reminder that while here in Corvallis, we feel like Oregon State is on the rise, we've still got a mountain to climb. There were flashes—Ayers' red zone pick, the 15 TFLs showing the defense can disrupt—but not enough, and not consistently.

More importantly, the coaching staff is saying all the right things. Leon's accountability, his refusal to make excuses—that matters. But saying the right things can turn into hot air quickly. The Beavers need to show they can compete next week when they travel to Snapdragon Stadium to open Pac-12 play against the San Diego State Aztecs. No more moral victories. Time to get a real one.


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Team1st2nd3rd4thFinal
#17 Texas Tech (1-0)141710647
Oregon State (1-0)0103013

QTeamTimePlayTexas TechOregon State
1stTexas Tech6:43Coy Eakin, 3 Yd Pass From Brendan Sorsby70
1stTexas Tech3:14Leyton Stone, 1 Yd Pass From Brendan Sorsby140
2ndOregon State9:22Logan McCreery, 38 Yd FG143
2ndTexas Tech6:26Stone Harrington, 46 Yd FG173
2ndTexas Tech3:59Quinten Joyner, 34 Yd Run243
2ndOregon State2:40Cooper Jensen, 11 Yd Pass From Kallen Gutridge2410
2ndTexas Tech0:51Macho Stevenson, Returned Interception 23 Yds3110
3rdTexas Tech5:15Kelby Valsin, 14 Yd Pass From Brandon Sorsby3810
3rdTexas Tech2:24Stone Harrington, 53 Yd FG4110
3rdOregon State0:00Logan McCreery, 37 Yd FG4113
4thTexas Tech3:10Stone Harrington, 39 YD FG4413
4thTexas Tech1:50Stone Harrington, 46 Yd FG4713

Texas Tech                                                       Oregon State

Passing               | Stats                                    Passing            | Stats
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Brendan Sorsby        | 21/29, 164 Yds, 3 TD, INT                Kallen Gutridge    | 10/19, 106 Yds, TD, 2 INT
Nick Evers            | 1/4, 2 Yds                               James Rowe         | 3/16, 36 Yds, INT

Rushing               | Stats                                    Rushing            | Stats
----------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------
Quinten Joyner        | 12 Att, 140 Yds, TD                      Salahadin Allah    | 14 Att, 64 Yds
Jalen Dupree          | 12 Att, 41 Yds                           Kallen Gutridge    |  5 Att, -8 Yds

Receiving             | Stats                                    Receiving          | Stats
----------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------
Chase Sowell          | 5 Rec, 55 Yds                            David Wells Jr     | 3 Rec, 40 Yds
Kelby Valsin          | 3 Rec, 37 Yds, TD                        Malachi Durant     | 4 Rec, 36 Yds
Coy Eakin             | 6 Rec, 27 Yds, TD                        Cooper Jensen      | 1 Rec, 11 Yds, TD

Defensive             | Stats                                    Defensive          | Stats
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DT AJ Holmes Jr       | 4 Tkl, 2 TFL, Sack                       FS Kodi DeCambra   | 10 Tkl, 2 TFL
DE Braylon Rigsby     | 2 Tkl, TFL, Sack                         MLB Jalen Woods    | #2 Tkl, 2 TFL, Sack
CB Macho Stevenson    | 2 Tkl, INT, TD                           DE Ka'eo Akana     | 2 Tkl, 2 TFL, Sack
SS Brenden Jordan     | 2 Tkl, INT                               CB Exodus Ayers    | 8 Tkl, INT


Pac-12 Week Two Results
10 FCS @ Colorado State (1-2) 47
42 #8 Indiana (2-0) @ Utah State (1-1) 31
17 San Diego State (1-1) @ IUCLA (2-1) 38
38 UTSA (2-1) @ Texas State (0-2) 35
16 FCS @ Fresno State (1-1) 56
27 Memphis (2-1) @ Boise State (0-2) 24
0 FCS @ Washington State (1-1) 47

Notable Week Two Results
31 #4 Oklahoma (2-0) @ #16 Michigan (1-1) 12
48 #13 Iowa State (3-0) @ Iowa (1-1) 7
44 #12 Tennessee (2-0) @ #21 Missouri (2-1) 24
24 #20 Notre Dame (2-1) @ Florida State (1-1) 31
55 #1 Georgia (2-0) @ Louisville (2-1) 14
27 #14 Ohio State (2-1) @ #6 Texas (2-0) 35
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Post by Caesar » 20 Jan 2026, 10:22

12 for 140? :dunkface: Joyner was giving your defense the business
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Post by redsox907 » 21 Jan 2026, 00:10

Caesar wrote:
20 Jan 2026, 10:22
12 for 140? :dunkface: Joyner was giving your defense the business
he had 6 for 139 in the 1st half :pgdead: not saving face by saying we stuffed him for 5 of his final six runs, the damage was done. San Diego State better buckle their chin straps

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Chapter 20: Growing Pains

Publicly, I was saying all the right things. We’re focused on the process, improving each day, celebrating the small successes. But inside? I was seething.

“What did you expect, to just take the league by storm with a ragtag group of players,” joked Jessica, adding a playful wink at the end to try and dull the edge of her words.

She wasn’t wrong, of course. Oregon State was ranked in the bottom half of nearly every defensive metric last season. There’s only so much improvement you can get out of being well-coached, before it simply comes down to the “Jimmies and the Joes.”

But after the win in Houston, it felt like we were the perfect trap game for the Red Raiders. Against the Cougars, we’d celebrated the small victories, me included, because it felt like the beginning of something bigger. We notched a key safety after our punter pinned them at the two-yard line and even more importantly, we stopped them twice on two-point conversions. Collectively, we had a six-point swing defensively in a two-point win. We knew what needed to be addressed, where we needed to improve, and all week in practice the whole team had that locked-in feeling.

In the final huddle of Friday’s practice before the showdown with Texas Tech, I told the team I firmly believed we could hang with the Raiders. “We’ve got sound principles, disciplined players, and a scheme that works if we can execute,” I recited to the guys, having given a version of the speech to Jessica and the kids the night before.

“They’re coming into Reser Stadium expecting a slightly more difficult cakewalk than Abilene Christian gave them last week. Let’s give them a reason to fear coming to the Beaver State next time.”

Then Quinten Joyner ripped his way through my defense for 139 yards on just 7 carries in the first half. We were demoralized. If we were going to lose, I’d assumed Sorsby would be the one slicing and dicing us like a julienne rack. Instead, with the defense focused on not giving up big plays through the air, Joyner had more than enough room to gallop. Even after we secured an interception as they were driving late in the half, the joy didn’t last long. Kallen gave the ball right back on a pick-six and the game was essentially over at the half.

This wasn’t how it was supposed to go, I thought to myself in the locker room already trailing 31-10 at the half. It wasn’t the losing that bugged me, as passionate as I was I wasn’t foolish enough to think we’d outright dominate them. But I thought that we would at least compete. I gave the team my best “go get ‘em” speech at the half, but even my spirit had been demoralized. The interception by Exodus at the half felt like we’d finally found our footing, a sign that we could rally in the second half. Then as quickly as we seized it, Kallen gave it away with a pick six. The 31-10 deficit turned into a 47-13 final, leaving the once raucous Reser Stadium crowd shuffling for the exit by the fourth quarter.

Never mind that we stuffed the final 6 attempts by Joyner for a singular yard, the pair of sacks, the previous interception, or the 15 total tackles for loss. We’d been embarrassed and as far as I saw it, Tech took it easy on us in the second half. It was like when your older brother scored 10 straight points on you, then allowed you to score a few times before scoring the game-winner to make sure you would be willing to play him again. They let us believe it was close, but in reality, it could have been 65-13.

Yet, there I was on the podium applauding the process. It wasn’t malicious lying, as deep down I truly believe it was a process. But pride has a way of blurring your vision. I had conned myself into thinking that a few scheme changes would turn us into a dominant defense overnight.

Even as we prepared for San Diego State, I found myself obsessively poring over the tape from Texas Tech, nit-picking every missed assignment, every time a defender was just a beat slow reacting to a throw, or shooting the gap. In a vacuum, they meant nothing. But as the mistakes added up, it created a chasm. And that chasm was the gap between our defense and Texas Tech’s offense.

As I sat in my office late Thursday night, poring through the Tech tape for what felt like the hundredth time in the four days since the contest, Jessica came in with a peace offering. Cheesecake. We sat there in silence in my office, eating the cheesecake while I watched the tape, and she watched the various emotions of frustration, disappointment, and acceptance wash over my face. After 15 minutes of sitting in silence, content to get a moment with each other with the kids in bed even if I was still enthralled in the most frustrating game for myself since Oregon last year, Jessica stood and draped herself over my shoulders, leaving the rest of the cheesecake uneaten on the end table.

“I didn’t expect this to be a smooth process and I knew there would be times like this,” Jessica whispered soothingly, “But give it a rest for a night, Flyboy. The tape will still be there in the morning.”

I let her lead me to bed after that, the tape still playing its loop on the computer monitor, forgotten for the moment. An hour later and I wasn’t just mentally exhausted, but physically as well. Even so, sleep escaped me as I lay there, continuing the mental relay of the multitude of mistakes we needed to correct. I lay there in complete silence for a time, content to listen to Jessica’s breathing and the noises of the house. The kids were long in bed at that point, with AJ finally sleeping through the night, so it was just Jessica, me, and the quiet that never felt settled. Jessica must have noticed at some point I had yet to drift to sleep, rolling onto her own side to rest her head on my chest. We lay there like that for what felt like hours, but was in reality merely minutes, her head on my chest, hand tracing a slow, but deliberate path across my chest, before she finally started working her hand lower.

She pulled my left hand up, firm yet gentle, and gave it a light squeeze.

“Don’t get so caught up in the minute details of now, that you forget where you’ve come from, Armando. Nobody said coaching with the big boys would be easy, hell you said it yourself when you took the job. ‘You don’t get to pick the tests that you have. You just pick how you respond to them. That’s how life works.’ You’ve picked yourself up from worse before, and you didn’t do it by focusing on the past. You did it by doing the next right thing, until it became a habit.

“That’s what success looks like, at this level. Doing the next right thing. You guys got your asses handed to you. No amount of watching tape is going to change that. You’ve written the same thing down five times, underlined it twice, then wrote it again. This is no different than waking up in a hospital bed, missing a part of yourself. You lost your identity against Texas Tech, now it’s time to refocus and do the next right thing.

“And that’s paying it forward in San Diego this weekend.”

With that, she gave me a small peck on the cheek and rolled back over. I may be the football coach, but she damn sure could be a life coach if she so chose. Because those were exactly the words I needed.

I attempted to roll her over to thank her and return the kiss, but instead was met with a light slap. “Nah uh,” she scolded, with a smile I could hear even if I couldn’t see it with her facing the wall, “Losers get no play. Try again when you’ve got another dub under your belt.”

The next day at practice, we cut the drills short as a unit to meet in the film room. You could feel the distaste in the air, the guys were as tired as Jessica was of seeing the same embarrassing film from the Tech game.

But instead of watching film, we talked as men.

“Listen, guys. I’d never ask you guys to do anything I haven’t done before. I preach accountability, hard work, and commitment every day. Everybody in this room knows I was a D1 player for a stretch, competed at the same level you guys are striving to compete at now. But it goes deeper than that, because you guys don’t know my full story. I know we’ve trained this week harder than we have since camp, hell, it may be even harder than camp. And I respect the hell out of every man in this room. There hasn’t been one complaint, one reservation, one player slacking on drills. I can feel it in how you guys lift before practice, how you’re digesting film, how you’re executing on the field. You want to wash the taste of that loss out of your mouth just as bad as I do.

“But this is deeper than football. We can’t get caught up in the grind, the glitz, and the glamour of the sport while overlooking the principles it is trying to instill in us. This is about facing adversity, meeting it head on, and overcoming. So when I say I wouldn’t ask you to do anything I haven’t done, it goes beyond the football field.”

I then turned on the projector. Instead of game film of a missed assignment, or a wrong path to the ball, it was me. 40 pounds heavier, with a hole in my hand, on a hospital bed in the St. Francis’ ER. A picture the emergency department had snapped to document my condition when I arrived at the hospital.

I then began to explain to the young men in front of me my journey. An abbreviated version, that purposefully omitted the role my father played, because this wasn’t about overcoming the sins of your father. This was about owning up to the struggles, swallowing your pride, and doing the next best thing.

As I finished the short monologue of my life after the emergency room at St. Francis, I let the silence linger, heavy with understanding and acceptance.

“I’m not going to lie and say I’m content with how we’ve started the season. We have a standard to set at this program, but it starts with us. We need to lay the groundwork for the future to follow. It isn’t going to be handed to us. We need to keep taking the necessary steps, every day, until the process becomes the standard and the standard is excellence.

“And it starts next week at Snapdragon Stadium. We got our asses handed to us by Tech last week. SDSU may think they’re going to take advantage of us getting scraped off the mat. But we’re sticking together and fighting like hell. It’s time to show how we punch back”

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Post by Soapy » 21 Jan 2026, 07:51

don't buy a house just yet, beloved
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Post by djp73 » 21 Jan 2026, 09:10

not great against TTU, expected though
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